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On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Avery Payne <avery.p.payne_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:31 PM, toki clover <tokiclover_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: toki clover <tokiclover_at_gmail.com>
>> Date: 2015-01-02 1:30 GMT+01:00
>> Subject: Re: Using runit-init on debian/Jessie in place of
>> sysvinit/systemd
>> To: Luke Diamand <luke_at_diamand.org>
>>
>>
>> First, it's a bit crazy to use runit for init+service management entirely
>> because:
>>
>
> Oh, I'm crazy? Perhaps I should put on Mad Scientist goggles and a lab
> coat? :-)
>
>
>>
>> - It's completely crazy to supervise every service because; first, every
>> service
>> won't fit in if it's not a daemon;
>
>
> I'm working on this issue. This may be achievable with just shell script
> alone; but I'm looking at something very different from other solutions.
>
>
>> second supervising every daemon is
>> dangerous.
>>
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> How? In what context? I'm curious.
>
>
>> - Second, runit (or s6 for that matter) lack any decent service
>> dependency,
>> actually both completely ignore the problem (athough s6 may change this in
>> in a near futur.)
>>
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> I have been working on a shell-script prototype that would bring up
> services before launching a daemon. It is not complete and I am still
> working out the details. If it works, then I will include it as a
> "standard feature" of supervision-scripts.
>
>
>> - Third, do not forget the overhead of supervision (an extra instance per
>> daemon.)
>>
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> There was some discussion on the mailing list about this very topic.
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>
>> Stuffing stage 1 is suicidal...
>>
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> It's only suicidal if you don't have another init system around. I kept
> chunks of SysV intact on my home system for that reason, but it defaults to
> and starts with runit currently. Since the switch over, I've not needed
> SysV beyond looking at what Debian currently does inside of init.d scripts.
>
>
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